[Bergy68]

Aww man...

See over here in Canada, you don't see those kind of gatherings...at least I haven't. Thats the other reason for wanting to live over there, more respect towards artists of all styles and mediums.

[Levantulee]

you should cometo japan. its a bit tricky to find those gatherings but tokyo is one huge art playground.　I have never seen this much diversity and creativity in once place by so many people.

[koshime]

in Nihon?

I dont suppose you could help source me the "art of last exile book /illustrations/transport" if it exists do you? Love that show to bits!

[Colrouphobic]

This topic got a bit crippled.

I will post one link that I still have about this- "How to bid yourself out as a pro"


http://cedrichohnstadt.wordpress.com...roject-part-1/

Hopefully the other stuff will return as well ;)

[main loop]

Hmmm I work 9 hrs. a day for 45k/year.. works out to about 15$/hr.. maybe ill ask for a raise ;)

[koshime]

depends main loop.

One cant work out higher rates if on regular annual pay.
Whereas freelance, can be afforded to be paid higher per hour

[cedricstudio]

The reason freelancers can charge more is because they have a lot of expenses that would normally be paid by your boss. Advertising, computer equipment, software, art supplies, website fees, professional memberships, travel to conferences, etc.

And of course the big one--taxes. Self-employed people are charged a special tax called the Self-Employment tax (or SE Tax), which effectively doubles the amount of taxes a normal employee would pay per year.

I've been freelancing for ten years and I only get to keep about 50-60% of what I make per hour. It's still not a bad living. I just don't want anyone to get the impression that freelancing is a way to get rich quick.

[Colrouphobic]

Originally Posted by cedricstudio

The reason freelancers can charge more is because they have a lot of expenses that would normally be paid by your boss. Advertising, computer equipment, software, art supplies, website fees, professional memberships, travel to conferences, etc.

And of course the big one--taxes. Self-employed people are charged a special tax called the Self-Employment tax (or SE Tax), which effectively doubles the amount of taxes a normal employee would pay per year.

I've been freelancing for ten years and I only get to keep about 50-60% of what I make per hour. It's still not a bad living. I just don't want anyone to get the impression that freelancing is a way to get rich quick.

This is dependant completely on where in the world you live though, but ti would be interesing to hear about these things for different countries as well.

I know that in Sweden, where I currently reside, the boss would pay the equivalent of 100% your salary in a special "pot" that is turned into insurances, pensions, vacationmoney and similar.

This mean that when you hire anyone at a set salary of (lets just fake it and say) 10 euros anhour, the boss actually puts out 20 euros an hour.
If you are selfemplyed, you get to decide these things yourself, which means that you can take out your full salary minus the taxes (same as when working for your boss) but then decide yourself wether you should put away money for, for instance, vacation and pension.



Essentially, if you decide to work without any form of vacaion for five years, you can get some serious spending cash for things you want to put into your company.


This is the financial part of it all, and on a general "own business" level, but this topic is about freelance salaries..being a freelancer is techically having a business of your own so...

[koshime]

The choice of freelancing is not for the faint hearted.
but ultimately, its really a lifestyle choice.

its a lifestyle choice when first starting out. good way to earn extra money

and then you can either enjoy it so much you start a business and continue this freedom of choice and be your own boss.

OR, join a company...get more group experience.

Ultimately, freelance has its own set of drawbacks.
You need to be fastidiously keen on getting more business, by ensuring you get invoiced/paid on time, you have different set of upkeeps, must be able to be versatile and flexible and manage your time well

but, you are your own boss, and you dictate when you work, and when you dont work

The choice is yours

[main loop]

Originally Posted by koshime

depends main loop.

One cant work out higher rates if on regular annual pay.
Whereas freelance, can be afforded to be paid higher per hour

yeah i know but i was just kidding..

[koshime]

Ah. I guess I missed the point then. was trying to set a practical advice section here ,so guess I took everyone's feedback seriously to provide accurate feedback

[koshime]

Hmm - the Freelance Rate poll is missing. Will have to try to reinstate it